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July 21, 2021

HICOP COMMNETS ON HANSTF JULY 20, 2021 MEETING

Hawaii is the most tour copter impacted State in the Nation.

HANSTF to date has taken no meaningful action in spite of having 5  public hearings where the public has continually pleaded for relief.

Aloha HANSTF,

Aloha FAA Western-Pacific Regional Administrator Raquel Girvin,

HICoP repeats the following comments that were made after the April 20, 2021 HANSTF Meeting since they also apply to the July 20, 2021 meeting.

If the Goal of the Task Force is “Address noise concerns pertaining to the Hawaii air tour industry” it has been a total failure to date since no meaningful action has been taken and there is non on the horizon.

HICoP suggests that the next meeting, to be scheduled ASAP immediately, be exclusively dedicated to the common knowledge existing tour copter noise dilemma that is created by the tour copters transiting over occupied properties and how this noise torture can be eliminated forthwith.

There was much discussion at this meeting regarding an Hawaii Attorney General opinion on FAA preemption.  To date the Hawaii Attorney General has always opined that the FAA preempts any local jurisdiction.

That  AG opinion conflicts with a simple reading of the FAA Western-Pacific Regional Administrator web site:

https://www.faa.gov/about/office_org/headquarters_offices/arc/western_pacific/noise_complaint/

” airport sponsors (i.e., owners/operators) ( Hawaii HDOT Airports Division ) also share the responsibility for ———– noise impacts on residents of the surrounding area.”

Noise Complaints & Inquiries

Noise from Aircraft Operations at Your Community Airport

The FAA’s continuing mission is to ensure the safe and efficient use of our nation’s navigable airspace. We also participate in an array of research and community engagement activities focused on addressing aircraft noise. However, airport sponsors (i.e., owners/operators) also share the responsibility for reducing incompatible land uses and noise impacts on residents of the surrounding area.

Is it asking too much to have the FAA  Western-Pacific Regional Administrator to clearly state for all what that exactly means so it is clear to all where the responsibility lies.  It is way past time to continue to pass the buck! 

There was much discussion and suggestion that the real solution is to have the tour copters operate offshore.  The FAA has already implemented mandated offshore copter operations in an other jurisdiction,  FAA Rule 14 CFR Part 93, which requires 1 mile offshore.  FAA HNL already mandates a copter offshore departure route.

( One would think the Hawaii Tour Copter Operators, partially represented by the Hawaii Helicopter Association, knowing for years the noise torture they cause to the people and communities of Hawaii would voluntarily operate offshore with Aloha, instead they continue business as usual ignoring the aggravation and safety of their neighbors. )

Casey Riemer, HHA, said it is too dangerous to fly offshore in case of a crash.  Well Casey, it is a lot better for tour copters to crash offshore than on our homes as exemplified by the recent Kailua and Pearl Harbor fatal crashes.

Besides, tour copters operate offshore when ever they please for tours.  Tour copters daily cross the 8 plus mile channel between Maui and Molokai as well as between other islands.  That means they are more than 4 miles offshore over one of the roughest bodies of water in the State of Hawaii.  “We can do it safely when we want for our tours but it would not be safe if  required.”

https://www.maverickhelicopter.com/maui/tour-molokai-voyage?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI8LC1m_Xy8QIVQSc4Ch1L9ga0EAAYASABEgKI9_D_BwE

Flight Route


Molokai Voyage Map

https://mauihelicoptertours.com/west-maui-molokai

https://www.bluehawaiian.com/en/maui/tours

SO AS YOU CAN SEE FLYING OVER MORE THAN 8 MILES OF OPEN ROUGH WATER OFFSHORE IS NOT AN ISSUE WHEN THERE IS MONEY TO BE MADE!!

THE PEOPLE OF HAWAII SHOULD NOT HAVE TO WAIT ANOTHER DAY TO STOP THE TOUR COPTER NOISE NUISANCE POLLUTION TORTURE, THIS IS AN EMERGENCY!

YOU ALL HAVE HEARD THEIR PLEAS TIME AND TIME AGAIN, ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!

Mahalo,

Bob

For the HICoP Board


From: “rce”
To: “media” “Melissa Pavlicek”
Cc: “raquel girvin”, “ross higashi”
Sent: Wednesday, July 7, 2021 1:52:06 PM
Subject: HANSTF JULY 20, 2021 MEETING AGENDA

HANSTF JULY 20, 2021 MEETING AGENDA

Aloha HANSTF,

Following the April 20, 2021 HANSTF meeting, HICoP wrote HANSTF the email attached below.

Excerpts from HICoP email:

If the Goal of the Task Force is “Address noise concerns pertaining to the Hawaii air tour industry” it has been a total failure to date since no meaningful action has been taken and there is non on the horizon.

HICoP suggests that the next meeting, 3 months away, July 20, 2021, be exclusively dedicated to the common knowledge existing tour copter noise dilemma that is created by the tour copters transiting over occupied properties and how this noise torture can be eliminated forthwith.

The posted HANSTF agenda for the July 20, 2021 meeting only proposes  “will conduct a Virtual Public Meeting to gather input and information from community members regarding overflight noise and safety concerns East Honolulu to Waimanalo area of Oahu.”

HANSTF has already received comments from the public on:

September 22, 2020 Pearl City, Oahu Focused Virtual Public Meeting,

September 24, 2020 Kailua, Oahu Focused Virtual Public Meeting,

December 1, 2020, Maui and Kaua’i Focused Virtual Public Meeting,

December 3, 2020, Hilo and Kona Focused Virtual Public Meeting

The FAA Western-Pacific Regional Administrator and Hawaii Airports Division were in attendance at the above meetings and heard the public plead for relief from the incessant tour copter noise nuisance pollution torture.

HANSTF has had two meetings since those previous Public Meetings listed above and the FAA Western-Pacific Regional Administrator and Hawaii Airports Division were in attendance at both those meetings.

:January 19, 2021, Hawaii Air Noise and Safety Task Force Virtual Meeting,

April 20, 2021, Hawaii Air Noise and Safety Task Force Virtual Meeting

HANSTF was announced on: FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE January 9, 2020 Hawaii Air Tour Task Force to Address Safety and Noise.  ( hanstf.org )

Besides the current above mentioned HANSTF public hearings on tour copter noise nuisance pollution the following public hearing meetings were also held as listed below:

1.   Airport Division Deputy Director Ross Higashi met with HICoP at UH Hilo on August 9, 2016 where he was told by the HICoP Board about the unbearable tour copter noise torture on Hawaii Island,

2.  The FAA Western-Pacific Regional Administrator held a standing room only public hearing at Hilo Airport on March 3, 2017

3.  The FAA Western-Pacific Regional Administrator and Airports Division Deputy Director Ross Higashi jointly held a standing room only public hearing at Hilo Nani Mau on August 16, 2018,

The 2021 Hawaii Legislature HCR 81 was sent to HANSTF and requested:

HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES THIRTY-FIRST LEGISLATURE

2021 STATE OF HAWAII HOUSE CONCURRENT RESOLUTION URGING THE UNITED STATES CONGRESS, FEDERAL AVIATION ADMINISTRATION, AND HAWAII DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION TO TAKE EVERY ACTION NECESSARY TO ADDRESS RAPIDLY INCREASING SAFETY RISKS AND COMMUNITY DISRUPTION RESULTING FROM INSUFFICIENT REGULATION OF RAPIDLY INCREASING OPERATIONS OF TOUR HELICOPTERS AND SMALL AIRCRAFT THROUGHOUT HAWAII SKIES.

BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that the Hawaii Air Noise and Safety Task Force is urged to immediately respond substantively to public safety and community disruption concerns with clear changes to operations to reduce time, place, and manner of operations; 

It would be an understatement to say that meaningful action by the responsible government entities,  the FAA and the Hawaii Airports Division, is totally unnecessarily nonexistent.

HICoP asks HANSTF again;

HICoP suggests that the next meeting, 3 months away, July 20, 2021, be exclusively dedicated to the common knowledge existing noise dilemma that is created by the tour copters transiting over occupied properties and how this noise torture can be eliminated forthwith.

Mahalo,

Bob

For the HICoP Board

Bob – For the HICoP Board

April 21, 2021

Aloha HANSTF,

If the Goal of the Task Force is “Address noise concerns pertaining to the Hawaii air tour industry” it has been a failure to date since no meaningful action has been taken and there is non on the horizon.

The co-chairs were again absent from the meeting so agenda item 4 going back to the January 21, 2021 HANSTF meeting regarding a study consultant remains unexplained.

Agenda item 6.a. by the FAA did not provide any reference to how the FAA will address “noise”.

Hawaii is the most tour copter impacted State in the Nation yet we have had no meaningful action to address the Hawaii tour industry noise provided by the HANSTF Task Force Members.

So another 3 months to the next quarterly meeting and another 3 months of totally unnecessary tour copter noise nuisance pollution torture for the people of Hawaii.

HICoP suggests that the next meeting, 3 months away, be exclusively dedicated to the common knowledge existing tour copter noise dilemma that is created by the tour copters transiting over occupied properties and how this noise torture can be eliminated forthwith.

Mahalo,

Bob

For the HICoP Board

Post Author: HANSTF