Donald Horner

January 4, 2021

pls add our community’s voice to the concern of military aircraft doing training flight directly over our home at 11pm at night for several hours-beginnning at 10am and off and on for several day past 11pm at night. Below is the response. We sent them photo’s.

Begin forwarded message:

From: “Silva, Adriana J (AJ) MAJ USARMY 25 ID (USA)”
Date: January 4, 2021 at 11:03:27 AM HST
To: DonaldgHorner
Cc: “Duvall, Adam G LTC USARMY 25 ID (USA)” , “Sampsel, Johnathon W (John) MAJ USARMY 25 ID (USA)”
Subject: RE: [Non-DoD Source] Re: Noise Complaint (UNCLASSIFIED)

CLASSIFICATION: UNCLASSIFIED

Sir,

The training area you are referring to is for terrain flight use in support of ground force exercises.  The two blackhawks flying oval patterns were supporting a ground unit conducting training. Please note aircraft are still authorized to fly outside of this area at prescribed altitudes.

For your situational awareness the entry points are used under for night operations for the ease of separating aircraft  within the terrain flight training area.  Aircraft can enter the terrain flight training area from any point during daylight operations. 

With regards to Marine Osprey noise complaints please call 808-257-8876 or 808-257-8832.

I hope to have answered all your questions. Please let me know if I can be of further assistance.

v/r

ADRIANA J. SILVA
MAJ, AV
G3 Aviation Officer

25th Infantry Division
Schofield Barracks, HI 96857

Office: 808-655-4816

From: DonaldgHorner
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2020 9:15 PM
To: Silva, Adriana J (AJ) MAJ USARMY 25 ID (USA)
Cc: Duvall, Adam G LTC USARMY 25 ID (USA); Sampsel, Johnathon W (John) MAJ USARMY 25 ID (USA) ; Bill Quinlan
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: Noise Complaint (UNCLASSIFIED)
Importance: High

Attached is a example of military aircraft using the entry point over residential homes well West of Vlezyland. This Osprey is directly over the Sunset Beach community west of Sunset Beach Colony subdivision. This specific time was 5:15pm Dec 17.


> On Dec 16, 2020, at 3:20 PM, DonaldgHorner wrote:
>
> Major-our community very much appreciates your response.
>
> As I write this, two Army Blackhawk helicopters have been consistently flying directly over our North Shore neighborhoods in an oval pattern (well away from the training areas) for the past two days. They have been doing this oval flight pattern west and east of Sunset Beach. The same two aircraft are consistent in the pattern literally day and night (10am-past 10:30pm). Yesterday, it included two even louder Marine Ospreys.
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> Is this not well West of the entry point you spoke about? And, of course is not transit to the training site. I have lived in my home for 25+ years and this is a new occurrence.
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> We fully appreciate the critical requirement to do training. (I served in Vietnam). What we do not understand is why the training has moved over our homes consistently day and late into the night.
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> Also, in terms of the entry point; you stated “Velzyland Beach is just west of an entry point into a training area,  which is outside a designated noise sensitive area”.  Understood.
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> Our complaint issue is many of the pilots are not following those guideline.  They are choosing to turn from makai to mauka well west of V-Land much closer to Sunset and instead fly over populated homes vs flying over the less populated areas East of Velzyland.
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> Mahalo nui loa-for your consideration of our homes and families. Be safe. 
>
>
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>> On Dec 3, 2020, at 3:28 PM, Silva, Adriana J (AJ) MAJ USARMY 25 ID (USA) wrote:
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>> CLASSIFICATION: UNCLASSIFIED
>>
>> Sir,
>>
>> I wanted to reach out to you with regards to the noise complaint that you filed on 24NOV20.
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>> U.S. Army aircraft operating in this area (City) strive to avoid flight over large built up areas to reduce the effects of rotary wing noise.  I am sorry that their operations were disruptive to you.  As members of the community it is important to us, that we fly both safe and neighborly in support of the defense of our great nation. Honolulu Control Facility (HCF) reduces the risk of mid-air collisions by assigning aircraft operating altitudes that separate them from other traffic. These assigned altitudes are always above the Minimum Safe Altitude specified by Federal Aviation Regulation 91.119.
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>> As I’m sure you know Velzyland Beach is just west of an entry point into a training area,  which is outside a designated noise sensitive area.  The required flight altitude for that particular area is 1000′ and above ground level. The flight of two Blackhawk helicopters that you  photographed appear to be at an altitude of 2000′, in compliance with the published flight rules.
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>> Again, I am sorry to hear that aviation operations have been disruptive to you.
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>> If there are any future feel free to contact the noise complaint hotline at 808-656-3487.
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>> v/r
>>
>> ADRIANA J. SILVA
>> MAJ, AV
>> G3 Aviation Officer
>>
>> 25th Infantry Division
>> Schofield Barracks, HI 96857
>>
>> Office: 808-655-4816
>>
>>
>> CLASSIFICATION: UNCLASSIFIED